S9.com Update: A Look Back at SWM and SW-Switzerland

The current World Wonder standings on S9.com - TRUST now has 5 World Wonders with the addition of CleopatraFirst's

I’m going to try do do a 4-parter update today on the S9.com endgame, to get caught up on everything that’s been happening as of late. I’ll be quoting heavily from the Server 9 forums for these reports, so expect them to be a rather long. As I’ve said before, it’s a complex endgame and thus capturing the story isn’t something that can be done quickly.      

The first post will look at a key development that happened yesterday that is sure to have huge ramifications on the outcome of the endgame. The smallest of the 4 different factions, which was originally refered to as “SWM” (South West Masters) , and later started calling itself SW-Switzerland, has now joined the TRUST Meta-alliance.      

Let’s look at their history, before we delve into the events of the last 24 hours:      

The alliances in questions are all located in the South-West Quadrant. For several weeks they were confeded with alliances that were a part of Chaos Factor while also having Non-aggression pacts and other relations with Thunder wings.      

Then, at the start of the endgame, they declared themselves to be their own faction. Here’s the quote from their original announcement that they were going on their own (note that I’ve bolded certain parts for added emphasis)     

Hello everyone, we know there are going to be a lot of questions about SWM now forming up at this late stage of the game, so here are some answers for everyone. We, being the leaders of 7 of the wings in the SW have decided we will not follow certain players, and their endless bashing of absolutely everyone on this server. For me, being Snake Plissken, the decision was made a little bit simpler when my spies reported CF plans to take the WW that we had discussed JD taking, it was then that we became SWM. Already before we switched we were attacked by 3 different CF wings, so we are done with the petty politics of the SW, we are done watching a few players get entire wings devastated because of their attitude and their fool hardy tactics.

CF players, let me ask you, where has certain leaders gotten you, your capitals are ruined in many cases and your hammers destroyed or seriously damaged, you do not fight in a coordinated manner, you fight in small groups following someone that leads with arrogance, really? So now, your leaders have left you nothing, we are not your enemy, join with us, and help us win this server. What good is it to follow them to the end when you know full well what they are doing is costing you this server? Look at the leaders that are supporting us, Napalm, one of the most respected players on this server for what he has achieved over the course of this server, myself draw your own conclusions but my story is well known, megalion who held a small minority of alliances and fought it out with PG from day one and they are still here, and several others all of them with the loyalty of their players and the experience to see it through.  Those leaders that I am mentioning, it is back to the old leaders, work with us, not against us, but we do not work for you, and the way things have turned out has proven the need for our decision. If you insist on war this is what you are up against. 7 wings with a lot of experience that are coordinated and many that have fought against impossible odds together and have won, against you and the support you can get from your 5 wings that are left. Many of these wings are greatly weakened already and you guys know this as well as we do. We have more guns than you, and more experience than you, and you 5 remaining are already in a full scale war. So make your decisions  The leadership of SMW        

This original announcement notes that there were 7 wings signed onto the SWM, and also seems to imply they believed that they had CF outnumbered when they say that CF had “5 wings left” (they might have been reaching when they arrived at that count, there has always been a lot more than 5 CF wings).


Some players who responded to the message above were cynical as to whether or not SWM was really working on its own: 

Dissonance: I think everyone knew JD and CF-P were eventually going to become Thunder, it was just a matter of time until they were willing to drop the CF name and stop hiding…
You can read more reaction to the initial forming of SWM in this 11 page thread.
Players like Dissonance and other CF members who thought that SWM’s defection was a sign that they were working with Thunder will now say that they have been proven right, but a question that lingers in my mind is why not just have them join Thunder in the first place, instead of spending a whole month fighting on their own, if indeed the plan was to have them join Thunder in the end.
SWM got off to a decent start on their own. They seized two World Wonders in the confusion of their sudden change of relations. CF then went on the offensive against them, and managed to smash one of those World Wonder cities to the ground (the one that is currently held by Steel Curtain). But hostilities died down between the two sides as the arrival of the building plans neared, and SWM did well for an alliance of their size by managing to grab two sets of plans. But the mass defections that SWM was seemingly hoping for from CF players never came.
SWM eventually changed their World wonder’s name to SW-Switzerland, and most of the wings that remained loyal to it retagged to JD (for “Jedi Dawn”). Other alliances that were were on the fence at first eventually planted themselves firmly in the CF camp. About that time CleopatraFirst posted the following message in the forums (again, I’ve bolded some parts for emphasis):



SW stands for SouthWest as you all know …but it also can stand for :SW like Switzerland    

The similarities of the 2 could be intriguing.As Switzerland is famous for his fearful warriors ( a bit in the past – ok – lol )
SouthWest is famous for having been at war inside for 10 months , which is about
all the history we have.The people of Switzerland don’t have a common language – they have at least 3 languages in their country.
SouthWest has so many alliances , it is hard to count , but sure at least 3 metas.    

Now comes the hard part :
When the world came to the big WorldWars – the people of Switzerland stood together and
succeeded in staying out of the World War 1 and 2 and survived best of all.IF we can copy that in SouthWest too – we can still succeed in the WW race.

IF we decide that having a SW WorldWonder win the race is more important then the daily fight with the neighbor –
we have a ( small ) chance to make the race.

Aside from succeeding to do that : we would not have any.
SW is weaker then the other quads for the many wars

( SE never had a real war anyway – lol )    

These thoughts let me hope for the future and announce :  

SW – Switzerland
our banks are open 24 hours
7 days a week
now accepting deposits   

i want to invite everyone in the SouthWest to help building and defending our WW in the SW
i dont care which alliance you are from ( or which language you speak ) or who your friends or enemies are here
if you want SW to have any chance for a WIN = please support the
SW – Switzerland World Wonderthank you

Going by this, it sounds like SW truly hoped that by being a neutral third party, they could ensure a victory for the South-west quadrant.  

Of course, some CF members would argue that JD was only interested in peace that benefitted them: 

RockOn (X.Y.Z): Cleo hunny- talk to the JD alliances first about peace, then come talk to the rest of us in the SW. We’ve been working on a deal for a while and whenever we get close we get attacked.

Others disagreed with CleopatraFirst about whether or not a SW-Switzerland win was the only way that alliances from the Southwest Quadrant could be considered winners. 

Gills (Cf-KBC): Being from a former JD wing our allianz turned CF when the JD leadership moved that way… i speak for various others who are not leaders and just small players baking defense and resources for WW villages…

I personally and our allianz (if i assume correct) will only support whatever WW is united with the south… so from a Neutral SW player “we will only support those WW’s that gather in a single pack — and right now that is CF-WW”

So now matter how much you plead you need to join hands to get the SW to support your cause…


(I’m not saying which viewpoint is right or not, you can draw your own conclusions. I’m just trying to report the various opinions that players had. You read more reaction to Cleo’s post here: http://forum.travian.com/showthread.php?t=135584

Regardless, any chance of SWM/JD winning by staying isolated from warfare seems to have dried up. A civil war broke out in the Southwest and JD alliances seem to take the worst of it. Negotiations between CF and JD fell though and XYZ hit JD hard. More recently, CF-V attacked the JD and wings, and that seems to have been the final blow to their attempts at an independent victory for the Southwest. They officially became a part of TRUST yesterday.
In my next post, I’ll take a look at how this alters the balance of power in the game.    

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